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| + Steve | Dec 14 2017, 07:54 PM Post #1 |
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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/14/technology/net-neutrality-repeal-vote.html Oh f***ing dear... Download all the movies and porn while you can The fight isn't totally over but God damn, what a s***ty place the internet might become, can you imagine having to pay to visit certain websites or to not be able to access YouTube because your ISP doesn't like it? Want to access your right/left wing news? Your left/right leaning network says NO. Access incriminating information about your ISP? 50bytes per second internet speed. What a defining instance of what separates the rich and the poor, the weak and the pathetic.[/b] Edited by Steve, Dec 14 2017, 08:03 PM.
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| * Mitas | Dec 14 2017, 08:06 PM Post #2 |
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Luckily we live in the UK where there's actual competition on the broadband market, so this isn't likely to happen here. Will this affect the UK in at all? I watch a lot of NBA League Pass, which is obviously an American website; will this affect my ability to view that website in any way? |
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| + Ginyu | Dec 14 2017, 08:38 PM Post #3 |
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Long live Europe with it's basic laws. I don't think this is going to continue much further. People are WAY too much opposed to this idea. Too much backlash, too much fear of losing the next elections. Net neutrality will eventually remain. |
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| Notaka | Dec 14 2017, 09:15 PM Post #4 |
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It was obvious. Way too much people oppose this. |
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| + Steve | Dec 14 2017, 10:31 PM Post #5 |
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Maybe, for now...but they're going to keep trying. This has been attempted so many times. I heard that 80% of Americans voted against it but they still voted to repeal it, I don't think it's as safe as the backlash would indicate. Unless people are actually, genuinely willing to boycott their internet supply they still have plenty power over it, surely? Given how dependant people are on it they could still pull the rug out from under folk, maybe not this time but eventually. |
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| + Pyrus | Dec 14 2017, 10:47 PM Post #6 |
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As far as I know, it has to he decided in court, which it's been denied twice already. |
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| + Ssj3vegito96 | Dec 15 2017, 01:21 AM Post #7 |
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Still has to go through court and the billions of threats to sue |
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| + Steve | Dec 16 2017, 08:25 PM Post #8 |
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I've just thought, couldn't this whole thing be utterly destroyed by some decent billionaire entrepreneurs? Take Bill Gates for example, say he sets up his own network with maybe a few others, and they refuse to do this s***, offering the same old internet package everyone has been happy with for decades. Wouldn't this pretty much destroy Comcast and Verizon because most everyone would just migrate to these non s***ty ones? So many companies and corporations have spoke out against this that even if their intent isn't purely good, they'd likely want to chip in and end up with huge sums of money. Obviously providers like Verizon would do everything in their power to destroy this but surely there's a good chance this would happen? It'd be a damn smart thing to take advantage of. Why the f*** would you pay extra for porn and s***ty throttling when you can just migrate to a good service. |
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| * Mitas | Dec 16 2017, 09:27 PM Post #9 |
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That's pretty much exactly why it wouldn't work here in the UK. There are so many internet providers that one of them is bound to do that exact thing in order to get customers. I don't know much about it, or why, but America doesn't seem to have that competitive a market. But yeah, didn't Elon Musk say something about creating his own internet using satellites? |
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| + Steve | Dec 16 2017, 10:52 PM Post #10 |
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Hadn't heard about that but wouldn't surprise me. Seems American networks are too confident, obviously any network starting up at this stage would struggle but if it offered freedom it'd soon get the necessary funding. Also This f***ing guy Seriously. That's all people use the internet for? Instagramming and being a millennial, how f***ing out of touch with reality is he? I love the cockyness to it, like I said they seem massively confident they'll never have competitors but they're just asking for them really and it'd be so easy to do a better job since you just have to...not have these s***ty policies. |
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| + Pyrus | Dec 17 2017, 02:11 AM Post #11 |
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We didn't have net neutrality for quite some time in the 2000s, did we? And I never noticed much of a difference when it transitioned over. But I guess I wasn't paying attention to that stuff anyway. |
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| Goddess Ultimecia | Dec 17 2017, 03:54 PM Post #12 |
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Unfortunately we have something of an oligarchy when it comes to our service providers, and they're very keen on working with one another to nickel and dime their customers to the point that I'm almost certain each and every one of them would jump on board with making you buy packages on top of your regular internet bill to access rather basic websites. A big problem when it comes to the United States is due to the ridiculous cost it takes to set up infastructure here. Google actually is in the process of getting their own service provider spread across the country. However, it's currently only available for those in big cities like Salt Lake City, Austin, LA, Atlanta etc etc. In places like Kansas, you have state legislatures that attempted to halt Google from expanding any further than Kansas City. Most unfortunate is that they put all expansion plans on hold so what's already there is all that there will be. We only have like, three ISP Providers in the entire country, and in a lot of areas, there's only one or two at most that are available to you. |
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| + Ssj3vegito96 | Dec 17 2017, 05:22 PM Post #13 |
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I have a question. Before net neutrality the Internet wasn't bad. I mean it was only a couple of years ago. So are people blowing this out of proportion? |
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| + Steve | Dec 17 2017, 06:23 PM Post #14 |
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I don't think it was quite the same as they're aiming for now though, pretty sure they wouldn't have complete control otherwise this wouldn't have just become an issue surely?
Not that I entirely trust them but perhaps the Lords of Google will lend a hand in all this, they could potentially stand to lose a lot of money since anyone with Verizon could have their connection throttled should they use Google rather than Bing. As big a challenge as it would be I'm sure there are enough motivated and rich people who could get it done when push came to shove, especially as we go in to different technologies that probably don't operate on the same legislation. There's likely lots of viable loopholes like that. In any case, that video, God damn that video. "Pfft, only young people and stupid lefties care about having freedom on the internet, don't be like them, this is all Obama's fault...as is everything" |
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| * Yu Narukami | Dec 17 2017, 06:51 PM Post #15 |
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Pre-2015, as far as I know, net neutrality was the norm (with the exception of some cases), but the 2015 change just clarified the principle and provided protections. Really crappy things still happened, like that whole Netflix debacle, but for the most part, ISPs didn't jump on the opportunity to nickel and dime every consumer. As for why that is, it was probably because they weren't sure whether they'd be able to get away with it, legally or with their consumer-base. However, with an FCC which is totally compliant with the idea of charging the maximum amount possible for each aspect of the internet, ISPs basically have free reign to separate services and deliberately slow down/block content. Will this happen? I'm not sure, but you'd be depending on the mere goodwill of ISPs to not make more of a profit, so if you want to do that, that's your choice. |
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